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I remember thinking at the time (I was in high school in Manila) that Marcos must be a <IMy Inner French Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17014872210301856004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146715698090395935.post-43541568606311271172008-01-23T15:33:00.000-05:002008-01-23T15:33:00.000-05:00Zaius-I watched the debate and took Obama's commen...Zaius-<BR/><BR/>I watched the debate and took Obama's comments on Reagan with interest. I will take Obama at his word that he does indeed think Reagan was a bad President. (That being said I don't think the uproar over his original Reagan comment was without merit.) <BR/><BR/><I>A solution of running away or buying a gun would hardly seem to be a feasible solution in my view. Darth Vader had aDean Wormerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06214049238722718299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146715698090395935.post-56502890477110718272008-01-23T14:19:00.000-05:002008-01-23T14:19:00.000-05:00Damn! Where the fuck have I been sleeping? An real...Damn! Where the fuck have I been sleeping? An real-life fucking argument finally breaks out on one of these blogs and I totally miss it... well not totally.<BR/><BR/>Dr. Zaius, personally, you make a very fine distinction between what Obama said of the Reagan Presidency and how it was perceived. IMHO, a man in his position should choose his words more wisely when it comes to speaking on Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146715698090395935.post-77929756181333842432008-01-23T12:26:00.000-05:002008-01-23T12:26:00.000-05:00Fairlane, you'll always have space here. As will D...Fairlane, you'll always have space here. As will Dr. Zaius. I share political viewpoints with both of you guys, and consider you both internets pals. <BR/><BR/>I'll never demand that we all hold hands and sing songs of brotherhood and peacenikery because that's not the kind of guy I am, and disagreement is always welcome, but whatever personal beef you two have, let's not let it spill over here.Randal Graveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08728992897551848531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146715698090395935.post-47862685918118370422008-01-23T10:53:00.000-05:002008-01-23T10:53:00.000-05:00Zaius, I already told you what I think of you.You'...Zaius, I already told you what I think of you.<BR/><BR/>You're a Prop Comic cut from the same mold as Carrot Top, and Gallagher. I realize some people think that trite crap is funny, but I'm not one of them. <BR/><BR/>If I want to hear a lecture from someone like you, I'll head down to the Community College.<BR/><BR/>However.<BR/><BR/>For those who are unaware, Zaius, and I had an interesting s. douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04095308024108321913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146715698090395935.post-83512735138810860332008-01-23T08:15:00.000-05:002008-01-23T08:15:00.000-05:00Candace, please don't say healing. 1974. 1992. How...Candace, please don't say healing. 1974. 1992. How about we try heads in baskets instead. ;-)<BR/><BR/>dguzman, don't forget Watt! Use everything up 'cause Jesus is coming back real soon!<BR/><BR/>fairlane and dr. zaius, don't make me put you two outside. <BR/><BR/>In all semi-seriousness, speaking only for myself, the only solution I see right now is a revolution. Or some miraculous mass Randal Graveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08728992897551848531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146715698090395935.post-68595633923948823012008-01-23T05:29:00.000-05:002008-01-23T05:29:00.000-05:00Dean Wormer, You said, "can admiration for the pre...Dean Wormer, You said, "can admiration for the presidency of Ronald Reagan really appeal to moderates?" I can only say that once again that Obama did not show <I>any</I> admiration for Reagan's policies, only Reagan's popularity with the American people and both sides of the aisle in congress. If you have any doubt about what Obama said, might I direct you to his comments during the most recent Dr. Zaiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16153875976834518896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146715698090395935.post-43850338844879289922008-01-22T23:32:00.000-05:002008-01-22T23:32:00.000-05:00fairlane, that is EXACTLY what I was trying to say...fairlane, that is EXACTLY what I was trying to say about moderates in my Jonestown post. You've said it much better here!Suzi Riothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02869448922051303723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146715698090395935.post-23225800201256367922008-01-22T23:03:00.000-05:002008-01-22T23:03:00.000-05:00On one hand people say Obama is sincere, and genui...On one hand people say Obama is sincere, and genuine, and on the other they explain away his odious comments by saying he's simply pandering or "playing politics."<BR/><BR/>We need someone to make a stand, and soon. We don't need another toady pandering to the dim bulb masses.<BR/><BR/>Reagan left a scar on this country, and the only thing that should be said about him is how unfair it was he gots. douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04095308024108321913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146715698090395935.post-25162180164561252972008-01-22T17:46:00.000-05:002008-01-22T17:46:00.000-05:00Zaius-I understand the political calculation towar...Zaius-<BR/><BR/>I understand the political calculation towards running towards the center, but have two questions for you - isn't it a little early to switch to the general and can admiration for the presidency of Ronald Reagan really appeal to moderates?<BR/><BR/>(For clarification's sake I'm talking about real political centrists not the far right/ semi-far right paradigm that is well Dean Wormerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06214049238722718299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146715698090395935.post-70326229872545967032008-01-22T17:32:00.000-05:002008-01-22T17:32:00.000-05:00AMEN! I love Krugman too; he's never on acid, like...AMEN! I love Krugman too; he's never on acid, like Broder and Dowd and Kristol always are. <BR/><BR/>When I think of Reagan, I think of ketchup as a vegetable and the rise of the ultra-rich. He brought the robber barons back, and the Bushes sealed the deal.dguzmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01811101661607351661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146715698090395935.post-17726155074083217772008-01-22T15:23:00.000-05:002008-01-22T15:23:00.000-05:00We need healing. Just sayin. That's what he was sa...We need healing. Just sayin. That's what he was sayin, too. Like you say, Randal, we know what he said, the context in which he said it, and how it was twisted to say something else - it's the idjits out there who rely solely on soundbytes. Whoever the Democratic nominee is will get my vote this time. I'm still an Indy.Candacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10488301409338243686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146715698090395935.post-35519356388306668102008-01-22T12:48:00.000-05:002008-01-22T12:48:00.000-05:00Just Amen. And I love Krugman.Just Amen. And I love Krugman.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146715698090395935.post-8843599712326675772008-01-22T12:23:00.000-05:002008-01-22T12:23:00.000-05:00Dr. Zaius, I know Reagan was popular, even among D...Dr. Zaius, I know Reagan was popular, even among Dems for some of the reasons you lay out later on in your comment - I remember the 1980s quite well in a split Republican/Democrat household - but my point is that continuing to use Reagan as an example of any sort is going to dull all those treasonous and immoral things he and his administration did. People should want to vomit when they see or Randal Graveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08728992897551848531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146715698090395935.post-68228619210486817282008-01-22T10:38:00.000-05:002008-01-22T10:38:00.000-05:00Ditto. Oh and amen.Ditto. Oh and amen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146715698090395935.post-57441057373744738582008-01-22T09:21:00.000-05:002008-01-22T09:21:00.000-05:00I second PoP: Thank you, Dr. Zaius, for putting th...I second PoP: Thank you, Dr. Zaius, for putting the whole thing out there. Sen. Obama's comments were knowingly twisted (like that's a new thing) and used against him. Good job.Candacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10488301409338243686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146715698090395935.post-20454731490671688912008-01-22T09:06:00.000-05:002008-01-22T09:06:00.000-05:00I couldn't believe last night when Obama was tryin...I couldn't believe last night when Obama was trying to get out of his statement when called on this. Reagan was one of the worst Presidents we have ever had...next to Bush. Just like Bush, he pushed us into such high deficits and the air traffic controllers still haven't recovered from what he did to them.Mary Ellenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07835150057881066641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146715698090395935.post-15544628999794546502008-01-22T09:03:00.000-05:002008-01-22T09:03:00.000-05:00Nothing more I can say, Dr. Zaius did a great job...Nothing more I can say, Dr. Zaius did a great job of laying it all out.pissed off patriciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08854364015577541981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146715698090395935.post-92010804788712967482008-01-22T08:39:00.000-05:002008-01-22T08:39:00.000-05:00OBama was only trying to suck up to the moderates ...OBama was only trying to suck up to the moderates and independents, mainly because Hilary has the core party vote sewn up. Heaven forbid that he stoop to <I>politics</I> during an election!<BR/><BR/>And to a degree, OBama has a point. One thing that has been forgotten by Democrats is Reagan was in fact very popular, even among Democrats. Little things like trading arms with Iranian terrorists forDr. Zaiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16153875976834518896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146715698090395935.post-21099318500648257162008-01-22T06:48:00.000-05:002008-01-22T06:48:00.000-05:00To be fair, Obama's remarks were about the scale o...<EM>To be fair, Obama's remarks were about the scale of the hunger for change, not the kind of change.</EM><BR/><BR/>You know that, I know that, anyone who pays attention knows that, but this only proves my point. We all know Reagan sucked large amounts of hairy ass, but the average person is not going to dig deeper than what Obama said. I don't for a second think Obama praised Reagan. But to Randal Graveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08728992897551848531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146715698090395935.post-36548786380298282402008-01-22T02:20:00.000-05:002008-01-22T02:20:00.000-05:00"It’s not just a matter of what happens in the nex...<I>"It’s not just a matter of what happens in the next election. Mr. Clinton won his elections, but — as Mr. Obama correctly pointed out — he didn’t change America’s trajectory the way Reagan did. Why?<BR/><BR/>Well, I’d say that the great failure of the Clinton administration — more important even than its failure to achieve health care reform, though the two failures were closely related — was Dr. Zaiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16153875976834518896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146715698090395935.post-62297193064179234242008-01-21T23:17:00.000-05:002008-01-21T23:17:00.000-05:00MOTHERfucking amen, brother!I heart Paul Krugman t...MOTHERfucking amen, brother!<BR/><BR/>I heart Paul Krugman too. How we talk about Reagan, or any administration for that matter, is very important and very relevant. When Obama praises Reagan, is he praising Iran-Contra, unemployment, stagflation, the crack epidemic? What does Obama's historical interpretation of the Reagan presidency tell us about what his own presidency might be like? And Suzi Riothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02869448922051303723noreply@blogger.com